Home/Away (Geofencing) not starting heating until the person actually arrives home
Hi,
Recently installed a Tado X system and the home/away seems problematic.
On the previous Nest system we had, Home/Away detection worked out how long it would take to heat the home, and when it detected you were on the way home (from past activity, e.g., it's a weekday, and you're at work, and now you're leaving and heading towards home) it would start the heating so the house would be up to temperature when you arrived home.
Tado doesn't seem to be doing this, and only turns the heating on AS you arrive home, so you arrive home to a cold house until it has warmed up (and that takes a while in a large house!)
Is there a way of improving this, does it "learn" on its own and will get better? Or do I need to set a massive geofence area so it comes on at least 15 minutes before arriving home, but then have to deal with it not going away if going out of the house for a few hours but staying somewhat locally?
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That feature has existed for years in V2 and V3 but is missing fron X. Search here for "early start", there's a few discussions on the subject.
Here's one.
https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/comment/92447#Comment_92447
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As tulloch's mentioned, this basic feature is missing from Tado X.
From some of the posts I've seen on the forum, it was mentioned that whatever features were available on the old system, they may be eventually brought over to Tado X.
As per geofencing, the maximum radius for it to operate is 2 miles (I think), so this temporary work around won't be any good ..1
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Thanks for the answers both, dissapointing to say the least.
Looks like it's time to bust out some HomeAssistant automations until they can get their act together.
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I had this working with Hive in home assistant using zones and automation. I have zones setup for key locations like Home, office and friends etc.
When I leave home zone it switched off the heating and when I left the office zone it switched on the heating so the house would be warm when I got back.
Not sure if it works with Tado yet as my Pi5 won't boot anymore :(
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@tulloch sure thing! I actually have my Tado X added first to HomeKit as I have several HomePods around the house which ends up with no disconnections that I suffered with the Tado X Wireless Receiver/programmer. Then from there I share them into HomeAssistant using the Matter integration (you'll also need the Matter add on in HA/run the Matter server in Docker (what I do)).
At that point you'll have a load of climate entities available in HA - then you need to decide how to automate - you can use the standard automations and have it based on time and presence (using HA presence detection), or add the HACS store and install the Scheduler Integration and Scheduler card which allows you to more easily setup scheduled automations.
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Thanks for that. I got the HA server up and running to day and realised I've a fair bit to learn. I may come back for some advice.
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@tulloch more than happy to help - also the HomeAssistant forums are great (and definitely look into HACS as there's so much additional integrations there - I have my SolarEdge system connected to HomeAssistant using a HACS integration called SolarEdge-Modbus-Multi for instance and have a system which decides when to charge the solar battery off peak based on solar forecast for the next day … powerful stuff!)
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Looks like HA has a builtin integration for Tado and there is an action to change the mode to 'away' when I leave the house but it doesn't do anything :(
Just seems to disable the 'auto geofencing' within tado rather than changing the mode to away.
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I tried to set that up but it failed at th Tado login. Apparently does not work with X devices but they can be added via Matter. I've added one and, unlike in Apple Home, I can see humidity. I've a bit to learn here as HA is not as simple as I thought it would be. @philjohn Thanks for that, I'l come back when I'm more familiar with HA and the terminology used within.
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@thebiglebowski the current shipped integration isn't compatible with Tado X - someone had a pull request up to add it, but got too much pushback as the way they made it support both was quite hacky.
What I've done is setup home/away geofencing in the Tado app, but then have an automation in HomeAssistant (where I have all of the TRV's shared via matter from HomeKit) that at 4pm and IF there's nobody in the house, set the thermostats to 20 degrees.
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From what I read Tado-X is a matter device so can be added as an integration via the HA matter controller.
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I've decided just manually change to home mode, rather than try to automate via HA. I'll keep my HA server to play around with and I've set up Tailscale so I can access it when away from home.
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Definitely a learning curve, and many options to get your head around (plus does need occasional tinkering to keep running).
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