Support multiple schedule configurations such as spring etc..
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I would say this should be the most important update to Tado. I use the same settings every winter. But as soon as we get to late march our temperature changes where overnight is still cold but between 10am and 9pm it is quite warm. And I don't want to have to change all of my settings simply to cater for a couple of months before it's completely switched off until the following winter, only to have to recreate all of my settings again for the following winter. The ability to say activate "winter mode" and then activate "spring mode" in march. Even better, not to limit it to seasons but simply 3 or 4 user-configurable modes.2
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I have a feature suggestion that would make tado even more useful. We have a spare room that stays cool most of the time, but it would be useful to have a 2nd schedule to switch to when people are visiting. Also, it would be useful to easily switch to a 'weekend' schedule on Bank Holiday Monday. I'm sure there are other examples when a second or third 'saved schedule' would be useful, either for individual rooms or for the whole house.
Is this something already suggested? Is it something other people would find useful? I certainly would.1 -
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Is it possible to create separate Schedules and store them in 'Banks'?
E.g. Individual, separate heating profiles for the entire system. You could then recall a Winter/Summer/Cold Day or simply a 'I only want the bathroom rad on' schedule, without having to change all the radiator settings!
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My wish list for improving the smart schedules.
1) Allow users to create 10+ smart schedules
2) Allow smart schedules to exist in their own right without association to a specific room.
3) Each smart schedule can be logically linked to many rooms. Perhaps a drop down menu is provided to select the required schedule used by a room.
4) Edit a smart schedule and all rooms linked to that schedule will follow the revised time/temps.
5) Give smart schedules meaningful names that can be edited.
6) In the app increase the width of the smart schedule window when the phone/tablet is in landscape view.
7) Introduce ‘special’ time blocks for hot water control. For each time block allow the user to define the maximum time the boiler is called to heat the cylinder. For instance if I am at home between 5PM and 9PM I want to heat the water cylinder, but I don’t want to re-heat it for 4 hours - 1 hour of heating is sufficient. When occupants arrive home at 5PM then hot water heating starts at 5PM and stops at 6PM. Occupants arrive home at 7PM then hot water heating starts at 7PM and ends at 8PM.
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@GrayDav4276 did you read the edit at the top of this post from Tado. They are starting a project to improve the the smart schedule and want user feedback, hence my list of what I’d like from the app. I’ve mentioned most of these items before, but thought it best to reiterate in a new comment.
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@GrayDav4276 @GrilledCheese2 worth seeing the post here by Jurian: https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/9551/feedback-request-improvements-to-the-smart-schedule#latest1
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My requests are simple as others have said.
Have assignable presets that can be shared across devices. (if using a seasonal preset make the app have a suitable background or colour scheme.. I. E.. Blue snowflake backdrop for winter, golden brown leaf autumn, daffodil yellow and cyan for spring, orangey red sunshine pic for summer.. So you can see immediately which mode the app is in. Have default mode (tado colours) and have user custom schemes then...
I. E. Create five or so presets. Eg WINTER HOLIDAY, SUMMER HOLIDAY etc.. Set your operating Windows.. (days and times), set your parameters. On temp/off temp and min or max duration for boosts), geofencing, window detection etc.
Set a master (for group control)
And save. Have an Assign to option to send to multiple groups or radiators from the preset editor as well as an Adopt option to select a preset (or custom) from the devices window.
Have a pin option to pin heat settings to device profiles in multi user households with a hierarchy so geofencing is applied but the most senior user takes precedence when in home mode and next highest iif senior is away.
Allow custom and pre-sets to be calendar and environmentally mapped.
I. E. Option to assign summer to a set period so all the devices switch to that setting on may 15 and switch to Autumn on Sep 15..
Allowing environmental control to be turned on or off in that preset. I.e outside temp/humidity above or below.. And boost duration would make it completely smart.
Allow linking to:
Smart external tank thermostat.
Smart outdoor thermostst
As well as indoor thermostats to get live information. (external weather could be a smart weather station which shares data for all users.. Which Tado could sell anonymously to other service providers and offer incentives - (like waze for heating and cooling)
Tado should pair with someone like Tapo/Kasa and have one app, one interface for everything, home security, lighting and heating.. So we have less apps, less memberships and a greater user experience.
I forgot to Change my settings.
Some rooms are set to 21 and some 18.5.the smart schedule only shows timeliness by device. I want an overview.
When heating was scheduled.. Was it during a scheduled water heating period. Did any units call for heat and how long was the boiler running for.
Lastly.
Can we have a cycle function. Like frost protection for summer. 10 minutes of heat on all units once a week to circulate the system. Pref when in away mode or overnight.1 -
I'd like to understand how the weather compensation works within Tado. If a room's temperature is just below the required temperature in one room, the boiler fires up and heats it furiously until the room is far too hot - even though outside could be bright and sunny. I know the TRVs can work at three levels, so why not just heat slowly?
As to some extra suggestions, the first ever wireless thermostat I had (the Honeywell CM927) had three very useful options:
- A day off button - use to flip the current days schedule to Sunday, ideal for bank holidays, holidays or sick days. At midnight the normal programme would resume (say back to Tuesday).
- A party button - use to extend the current setting for one or more hours. Ideal if you know the heating will soon be changing to night settings, but you've decided to stay up late (so in my case I want the rooms downstairs to stay warm, and the rooms upstairs don't need heating yet). Once the set number of hours passed, the programme would resume to the time and day it was.
- A holiday button - Tado already surpasses this one thanks to the geolocation setting the away setting.
The day off and party functions were so simple to use, and fit most requirements to temporarily override the programme. Each could be applied either to the whole system, or just a selected room in the same way the resume, off and boost buttons do now.
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Happy to see this coming to fruition as I've asked for this many years ago (having been a Tado user since launch).
Key things for me:
- quick set of presets that I can switch to (I would say allow minimum 3 as I would at least use school holidays, summer and winter); each preset should allow a full independent schedule for each device just like the regular schedule does (in effect, multiple of what I can do now)
- geolocation takes care of when we are away BUT sometimes we have a guest at home; so a quick geolocation on/off toggle would be good. What would be even better is if someone in the house controls something manually - even just pressing the button a wall stat - that triggers this to be turned off and for the app to tell me it's done so
- hot water is troublesome; I would like that to come on/off based it's own geo distance setting (configurable, but I would set it to 10 miles). So if I am further away it assumes I am away and stays off. But if I am near assume that I will be coming back and need hot water. This is different from heating - heating is required there and then, but the hot water is on a schedule for use later and stored in a tank so it needs to come on at the right time.
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Hi,
I work in shifts, 06:00-14:00/14:00-22:00/22:00-06:00
It would be handy for people working in shifts to set up a few smart schedules so that they can pick which ever one they need on that certain day.
I just installed Tado and I'm already dreading the idea that I will have to check/change my settings regularly due to these shift changes.
Like when I'm working night shift but sleeping during the day I don't need any heating until I wake up at 15:00. For the other shifts I could work with the geolocation feature and turn of the heating manually whenever I go to bed. But this seems a lot of work for a 'smart' thermostat.
It would be nice to save multiple schedules and be able to select the one which is needed that certain day.
Even for people not working in shifts ;)
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First thing that would make a big difference is letting individual users set their own schedules. I think that's relatively simple as it shouldn't need the backend system changing drastically. Then where there's conflict the system defaults to On and the warmest set temperature.
This would address most issues caused by multiple users having different occupancy patterns, which becomes a problem where there are multiple zones.
The current setup assumes a single zone, if anyone's home turn it on. But where you have multiple zones it then matters who is home. Quick simple example; both me and my wife work at home, my wife doesn't work on a Wednesday. So we have it setup to heat just the floor we work on during the day in the week, but on a Wednesday if my wife is home the downstairs should heat too and if she goes out it should go back to just the floor I'm then working on.
After that, what's missing for me is the ability to pick up exceptions other than those that can be triggered by geolocation. Eg my parents won't install the app, but they're often here with the kids on their own in the winter. Can you pick up that from my Calendar, give me a Visitor schedule that I can set or something like that?
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@paulrockliffe Thanks for your suggestion! I think you are describing "Geofencing per room" or "Geolocation per room" feature. There should be a topic about that in this forum also.
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+1 I'd love something where i could have seasonal schedules and some sort of guest mode/schedule for the spare bedroom
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Would definitely like to see options for multiple schedules. Ideally with the ability to set for whole house or an individual room, and with a choice of how long i.e. by time e.g. hours/days or until manually changed by the user (similar to existing manual changes) and with user specified names. This would cover scenarios such as guests (change a bedroom setting for x number of days), bank holidays or shift work (change whole house for required number of days), changing seasons (change whole house until next changed by user). Simple selection from a drop-down list of user's schedule names, leading to subsequent drop-down of until changed/days/hours, with days/hours then requesting a number.
Not sure if technically schedule related, but one other thing I would like to see is some sort of day-to-a-view where I could see all rooms in my house for, as a minimum 'today', but possibly by day selection, so I can see an overview of how my rooms coordinate within my house on a given day.1 -
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Hi Tado team,
Any update on the improvement of the schedules?
I would love biweekly schedules, as I don't have a weekly rhythm with kids and work. Would same me and the environment a bunch.2 -
l’m new to the tado° system and bought in assuming that multiple schedules would be a given in any smart heating control system. It's frustrating, to put it mildly, to discover that the software comes nowhere close to providing this basic functionality! I see that copy/paste schedule building has just been written into the Android app, which is another feature that I would have expected to find in the initial build.
The tado° hardware is so capable and pleasingly designed it slightly beggars belief that the software is so rudimentary in that respect. We can only hope that tado° make up for missing these opportunities that a smart system provides, by putting resources into developing this asap.
Looking at the timeline of the forum posts and the minimal input from tado°, hello Jurian, I’m not confident that this is being taken as seriously as it should be? Please tell me I’m wrong!
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Hello there,
My idea is add a "summer maintenance" mode. In the mode, at summer, the tado radiator valves move it from min. to max. state about once a month. (without do a heating request)
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In addition the external temperature could be a dynamic trigger - e.g. turn off the system completely when outside temperature is above 17 degrees.1
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@GrilledCheese2 Great suggestions! Personally, I don't think you ask 'too much'. Should be doable to allow for limit programming by...limited programming on Tado's end. Sticking it under 'advanced schedules' should allow for making it slightly more complicated than the rest of the interface.
I'd like to add two more:
- Make them user dependent: User X is not at home not heat bedroom/office Y.
- Allow a timer for a schedule before reverting back to another (or a predefined standard?) schedule.
(and yes I'm aware these two ideas are not new and have been mentioned before)
I might even break a lance for allowing a lot of programmability in an external IFTTT-like webapp. Like the API, only a fraction of the users can read it, but the community always provides. A bit like the Android app Tasker, which most users can probably only use the basic functions, but you can download a ton of scripts which allow - well -pretty anything you want to do with Tasker. In all honesty, I think chances for this to happen are remote but..please just don't limit the functionality too much in order to dumb it down.
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Good suggestion @SVL
I was literally thinking yesterday about the "guest present" temporary setting. It would be separate from one discussed in the other thread. This one could be simply a temporary override in a manner you described for timed schedules (e.g. I know I have guests over the weekend so while I normally keep guest bedroom cold, I'd like it to be active over this weekend only.
I have tried to achieve similar with my home office by presence/motion sensor linked to Alexa, but the problem there is that it was unable to set a "mode" - while it was fine for turning temperature on - while no motion/presence was detected I was only able to revert it back to "off" (or other fixed setup) rather than usual schedule.
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My house has floor heating and is very well isolated. Because floor heating is a very slow way of heating a room, I have set my 'Away' temperature to only 3 degrees less than normal. If I would allow it to cool down more, it will take a very long time to warm up when I get back. I would like to have an extra 'Holiday' option besides the existing 'Home / Away' options. When I am leaving for a short stay I would select 'Away' but when leaving for a longer period I would select 'Holiday' and allow my house to cool down a lot more than the 3 degrees.
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The different smart schedules need the ability to turn geofencing on and off individually too. For instance, with our geofencing turned on and me and my partner out for the evening, the heating will turn off. We need a babysitter mode so the kids and sitter aren't freezing :D
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@mr_reamer Is that not the same as setting geofencing to home mode?
Or, are you looking for geofencing for an individual room?1
