Geofencing per room per person
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Okay, firstly, I appreciate there are concerns as to if/when tado will work on new features but please move those discussions to the forums for which they are for. Alternatively, If you don't understand this feature request then its maybe not for you, move on etc.
May be worth consider recreating this as a new request @GaryW32 a fresh to have a clean view for Tado devs as/if/when they do the next round of feature prioritisation. I have given a feature specification below to work on as my perception of use-cases and system function but there may be other ways to skin the cat as such:
Feature Use-Cases
- In a house with 3-bedrooms, each user account is assigned to each of the rooms, when that user account is set to home then the TRV assigned to each room will be heated as per the home schedule along with any common-rooms assigned to each account.
- In a house with an 'office' room, a user account is assigned to the office, when that user account is set to home then the assigned office room TRV will be heated as per the home schedule along with any common-rooms assigned to each account.
Current system
A) Each user has a Tado Account
B) Each user is currently assigned to a 'Whole House'
C) Geofencing will disable heating for the 'Whole House' when all occupants leave as per existing Home/Away detection.
Proposed system
A) Each user has a Tado Account
B) Each user is to assigned to 'All Rooms' of the House by default (No behaviour change untiul configured)
C) Each user may be configured to remove/assign their account against specific rooms in the house (new fine-grained behaviour)
C) Geofencing will disable heating for each 'Room' for which all assigned occupants to that room are away as per existing Home/Away detection.
Examplar logic
In a house with:
- 3 rooms
- two occupants accounts
The feature can be configured as:
- account 1 assigned to both room (A+B)
- account 2 may be assigned to both room (B+C).
This feature provides heating to speciifc rooms as:
- When only account 1 is home then heating resumes on room (A+B)
- When account 2 is home only (B+C)
- When both are Home then (A+B) | (B+C) == A+B+C as a logical-or of rooms occupied by the account are heated.
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I have another more pressing example for the same feature. I've asked this multiple times over many years but it's still not a feature. I have three children who live with my ex wife most of the time. They each have their own bedroom at my house that needs heating when they are here (weekends mostly) but not all of them come all the time. What I want is for it to not heat their bedrooms when they are not in. This would also work in shared appartements where each tenant has their own heating zone. (Not zone as in it needs a separate boiler switch). Please please please fix this!2
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Trying to understand what is so complicated here. Request is on spot and should be clear ... Enable home/away mode per room in relation to person. Same way as is now only for Home.3
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This would be a great addition and exactly what I was going to suggest. Having two teenage daughters who live at home there's no pattern for when they are home and when they are away. It would be great to assign their phone to their rooms or zones and have home/away mode auto-enabled just for them. +1 from me.
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Anybody wanting to do this, download IFTTT, and once set, it will override TADO
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@GaryW32 Multi-User geofencing has been requested 8 years ago and tado confirmed it will be coming, I bought my tado because of that confirmation. Should’ve known better, don’t wait for it!2
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@SilveRxMafiA I checked and it seems that IFTTT only switches the whole heating on and off, it can’t address individual room radiator trv’s… so it works much like the Tado app, I guess the only difference is that it geofence switches on and off automatically without a subscription0
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The only way to make this work is if the TRVs send a beacon to the mobile phone and ascertain location or proximity. But even then accuracy will be an issue.
Then battery life will be depleted too. It's a feature that is nice to have.
I want my car to fly too, not gonna happen yet.-2 -
Looking 8n history of this request... looks like will be challenging to get ... Anyway, until then, I switch off geofencing in Tado and transfer home/away function to Home assistant automation and is working great ...0
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@SPT this thread isn’t suggesting what you are outlining…
no new hardware needed, it’s purely a software thing, multiple users geofenced that’s it… each user can choose which room(s) their geofencing applies to..1 -
@foggyheating : Geofencing accuracy will be an issue. It knows you're in the home because GPS is fairly accurate. But knowing who is in specific rooms will be a huge challenge. As I mentioned, it would need to be constantly polling for near by phone. The TRVs will end up being drained.0
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@foggyheating you are also assuming that tado knows which user switched on the heating and stores that data.0
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Request here is not related to person being in HOUSE and then switch room. Request is about specific person LEAVE HOUSE and specific room will go to away mode1
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@samd what if Tado doesn't store the data for who set the room last?0
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hahahahaha just read this thread from start to finish and I think @SPT is a sandwich short of a picnic. I cant believe how many times you all tried to spell it out to him/her...
@SPT ill speak slow...
THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE TADO GEOFENCING TO KNOW WHAT ROOM ANYONE IS IN.... EVER.... JUST GET THAT OUT OF YOUR HEAD COMPLETELY AND ACTUALLY READ WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING...
THE ONLY THING NEEDED IS JUST THE EXISTING STANDARD GEOFENCING FUNCTIONALITY OF "HOME" AND "AWAY" BUT WITH THE ABILITY OF ASSIGNING JANETS OFFICE TO JANETS HOME/AWAY STATUS AND JOHNS OFFICE TO JOHNS HOME/AWAY STATUS. (names made up to protect the innocent) THE GEOFENCING ALREADY KNOWS THE HOME/AWAY STATUS OF EACH PHONE SETUP IN THE ACCOUNT TO SHARE ITS LOCATION. SO JUST A SMALL SOFTWARE/CONFIG CHANGE TO ASSIGN A ROOM TO AN INDIVIDUALS HOME/AWAY STATUS RATHER THAN THE HOUSE HOME/AWAY STATUS AS A WHOLE.
This is not niche at all and i have this exact requirement here in my house - i have achieved it using HomeAssistant and the tado integration - i simply disable (put in frost protection mode) my wifes office when my wife is out and the rest of the house is heated if either or both of us are home driven by the home and away status.
It would be good to have the feature in Tado directly so you didnt have to use 3rd party software. but in all honesty once you go down the rabbit hole of setting up HomeAssistant to unify all your smart home stuff your never going back anyway :) you just start automating everything.
HomeAssistant will solve all the other use cases mentioned in this thread also.
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